Posted on November 17, 2016 by Serbian Animals Voice (SAV)



And send an e mail to Chancellor Merkel asking for 8 hours maximum journey time –
As well as working with German friends and campaigners regarding live exports and the need for an 8 hour maximum one off journey time; we are now also going direct to the EU.
With our German campaigners and using heir helpful advice and letter writing, we have already got things under way to target Chancellor Merkel in Germany; asking her to make representations on the subject at EU level.
Here is our post:
We have also, now produced a petition to Bernard Van Goethem at the EU asking for an 8 hour maximum one off journey time for animals. You may well remember other posts on this site where Mr Van Goethem has held his hands up and said “we can do nothing” – even when presented with the most disgusting videos of animals suffering at the Turkish border when exported from the EU.
See the videos presented to him here:

Here is our new EU Petition link – please sign and crosspost to all your contacts;
The wording of our letter to Mr Van Goethem – a Director at – European Commission, DG SANCO – Directorate G – Veterinary and International Affairs is as follows:
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Dear Sir (Mr. Van Goethem),
In the context of the 8hours campaign in 2012, more than 1,200,000 (1 million 200 thousand) citizens asked the EU Commission to limit all livestock transportation to a one off 8 hours maximum. Every year due to the existing and non enforced ‘EU legislation’, millions of farm animals suffer during long-distance transport across Europe and to other Third countries such as Turkey.
They are transported for very long period and exposed to extreme variations in temperatures, both of which are non compliant with the regulations set by EU regulation. In addition, only some animals (say those near to water dispensers) making up any particular consignment are lucky enough to receive very limited rations of food and water; often many get nothing. – In addition, the legally required rest breaks detailed in the regulation are also very often ignored by EU international livestock hauliers. Again, the EU Directorate; of which you are a Director, takes no action to make things any better for these animals.
It is inconceivable that the EU Commission has completely ignored the requests of over 1,2 million EU citizens asking to limit animal transports to a maximum one off journey time of 8 hours. You are failing us, the citizens of the EU, and you are failing the animals of the EU.
According to EU Regulation No. 1/2005, which is supposed to ‘protect’ animals during transport, but does anything but protect; the following freedoms should apply to all animals during transport:
• Animals must be free from hunger and thirst,
• Animals must be free from pain, injuries and diseases,
• Animals must be free from anxiety and stress.
All of these freedoms are regularly being breached during long-lasting international transport, especially to locations such as Turkey from EU states.
Regulation 1/2005 exists only on paper to show the EU public there are so- called legislative rules. But the EU, of which you are a Veterinary Director, is not enforcing the existing regulation in any way; and so the legislation really means nothing – it is utterly useless paper ‘nothing’; and the livestock haulage industry know this as well as your failures to enforce the legislation. The demands defined in 1/2005 are not respected by several existing EU member states, and you do nothing legally to even try to enforce them. Examples of the failures we are talking about can be seen in the videos referenced below for example; especially in this case regarding animals exported from the EU to Turkey.
Animals transports from the EU to Turkey –
Export of sheep from England to Germany –
All the video evidence above as well as meetings between you and animal welfare organisations have ended with the disappointing but simple response from you: “We cannot do anything”. On behalf of EU citizens, we thus question the EU enforcement of Regulation 1/2005, and say that if legislation is not rigidly enforced, then why does it exist in the first place ? – as we said, just a paper, mean nothing lump of regulation.
EU officials / Commissioners, who could start to amend animal transport legislation immediately, have remained inactive and very quiet for a very long time. Regulation 1/2005 for animals in transport ‘protection’, which originally became law in December 2004, is utterly ineffective as EU officials including yourself take no action whatsoever to enforce it.
According to the Lisbon Treaty, one million people who have to come from several EU Member States, can use the ‘citizens’ initiative’ to ask the European Commission to submit new political proposals. These 1,2 million people calling for 8 hour transport legislation have not yet been able to stop the misery of the transport of animals for time periods over 8 hours. Times need to change and you need to be held responsible.
Therefore, we are now asking you, a ‘Veterinary Director’ at the EU, to make sure that these animal transports within EU member states, and also all exports to Third nations such as EU – Turkey transportation; are timed to a one off maximum journey time of no more than eight (8) hours.
Please use your influence as a ‘vet’ – someone who allegedly should care about the welfare of animals, so that the existing laws on the implementation on animal transports are finally adapted for once and all to reflect a one off maximum journey time of no more than 8 hours as the citizens of Europe request. This ruling must apply for transport across the whole of the EU and for export to Third countries such as Turkey. Only for specific situations such as Scottish animals being shipped from islands to the mainland should their be additional but limited hours.
Thank you for your time and consideration of our very important ‘citizens’ initiative’ request. We are watching your future actions to see if the ‘EU Veterinary Director’ actually does anything for the improvement of ‘animal welfare’ – and animals currently suffering during transport.
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You can sign our petition calling for 8 hours maximum (one off) journey time by visiting:
Please pass the link on to anyone and everyone you know.
We need to make this big for the animals that you have seen in the videos above.
Mr Van Goethem is a Director at European Commission, DG SANCO – Directorate G – Veterinary and International Affairs – so we must let him know how we feel about the current legislation (EU Regulation 1/2005 of December 2004) and now demand that a maximum 8 hour, one off journey time is introduced for all animals transported within the EU and for animals transported from the EU to Third nations such as Turkey.
Regards SAV.
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Posted on November 15, 2016 by Serbian Animals Voice (SAV)


Here below are some truly superb animal rescue videos by our friends at Animal Aid Unlimited. Despite suffering some terrible injuries, the work and dedication of the team at AAU have proved successful every time. They deserve our support to enable them to continue with their brilliant work.
Between some of the videos you will see a donation link. Please try to give something to help this brilliant team with their continuing work to save animals of all shapes and sizes.
We take our hat off to the entire team; enjoy their uplifting videos and wish them the very best for the future. SAV.
Donations:
Dear Mark,
Thank you for sharing your beautiful love of animals with Animal Aid Unlimited. We are so delighted to return that love by sharing these special love-packed stories and to introduce you to some unforgettable angels whose happiness was worth every day of treatment and care. Your loving support is behind each of these videos. You are an essential member of the rescue team. So as you watch these videos, we hope your heart will be filled with pride. These are your sweethearts.
How could anyone have abused this precious girl?
This beautiful older lady might have been deliberately hit. We found her bleeding from her head collapsed under brambles. Her recovery was slow and we feared she might have permanent brain damage. But suddenly the sunlight shown through.
A mother’s love meets Animal Aid’s love and the result?
Baby donkey Genevieve was attacked by a wild animal. Her many bite wounds were not only painful, the danger of sepsis from infection was acute. Treating her in the hospital was a must, but someone WASN’T ok about being separated. Genevieve’s mom was not about to let strangers take her baby–so of course, we packed up Mama and took her along. Watch how her mother made SURE she’d get better.

Donations:
“Hold on sweetheart! Hold on!”
This utterly lovely girl could not gain a perch in this well, and she had exhausted all her energy swimming and searching for a way out of her prison. Without rescue she would died from either drowning or hypothermia. What a beautiful angel to save.
A bull FAINTED after falling into a shop.
Two bulls locked horns in a busy Udaipur market, and one of them was hurled through a glass shop window. This poor bull was so upset he lost consciousness and crashed to the floor. Rescuing him was not so easy, but it sure felt good when he recovered and stood all by himself at Animal Aid.
Donations:

This is the biggest porcupine quill we’ve EVER seen. And it went through her eyelid!
This gentle old girl got herself in terrible trouble after we presume she went after a porcupine. We found her with a massive quill embedded several inches under her eye-lid. It was a miracle her eye wasn’t punctured. Watch our just-in-time rescue of this stunned and dazed sweetheart.
Frozen in pain, donkey’s shoulder gashed on busy highway.
What could be more heart-wrenching than a gentle donkey bleeding from a traffic accident, stuck in the roar of traffic unable to move? Watch Hobnob’s crisis turn to slow and steady relief and joy.
Donations:
Sweetest greeting from dog in desperate pain.
Maybe his tail wagged because he sensed his moment of rescue had finally come. Meet gracious Dylan whose shredded ear had become unbearably painful and infested with maggots was life-threatening. He’s a new boy after several weeks of treatment–meet a super hero of sweetness.
Your loving donation lifts suffering Someones out of pain. What a beautiful way to cherish animals.
With our deepest thanks,
Donations:

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Posted on November 15, 2016 by Serbian Animals Voice (SAV)



We need your comments by Sunday, November 27th, so we can submit them with our comments to the National Marine Fisheries Service.
Urge US Government to Increase Observer Coverage of California’s Deadly Drift Gillnet Fishery
The California drift gillnet fishery for swordfish and shark is the most dangerous fishery for whales and other marine mammals along the U.S. West Coast from California to Alaska.
Over the past decade, this fishery killed or injured almost 800 dolphins, whales, and other marine mammals.

Last year, Turtle Island and allies won new rules requiring increased observer coverage and hard caps (triggers that will result in the immediate closure of the fishery when certain numbers of animals are killed or injured).
Turtle Island believes that this deadly fishery needs 100% observer coverage and that the hard cap levels need to be reduced to better protect marine species.
Please sign the petition calling on the US government to keep a better eye on this deadly fishery.
We will submit your petition to the National Marine Fisheries Service before the close of the formal comment period.


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Posted on November 15, 2016 by Serbian Animals Voice (SAV)
Dear all;
as we are working a lot on live animal transport issues at the moment, we are leaving the 8 hour campaign to Ch. Merkel and the petition to the EU as the header posts for a few days.
But we are also publishing other things/issues/actions at the moment, which you can find at ‘Recent Posts’ which is located on the right hand side. This is always a good place to visit as it has our very latest issues.
So although the main header page may not look as if it has changed much, you can find other recent/more up todate actions at ‘Recent posts’.
Regards SAV.
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Posted on November 14, 2016 by Serbian Animals Voice (SAV)


In a new investigation led by our international arm — Animals International — we’ve uncovered a devastating global trade in baby animals. They’re the live export industry’s littlest victims.
Unwanted Romanian dairy calves are being taken from their mothers and shipped to the Middle East. These confused and frightened babies are destined to be fattened before suffering the most violent of deaths.
And last night in a major television exposé in Romania, we gave these calves an unprecedented voice.
As you know, when it comes to extreme cruelty, the live export trade knows no borders. Where an animal is from, how much they suffer through being uprooted and shipped to foreign lands, matters little when profit is the end goal.
But there’s a reason why all these animals — whether from Europe or Australia — matter to us. Because each and every one of them is a pawn in an unconscionable global trade in animal cruelty and suffering.
After a decade of investigating and exposing this industry, you’ve helped us get animals out of some horrific situations. There are now layers of regulations around the Australian live export trade that make this cruel business less attractive and less profitable. And as a result, fewer Australian animals are being exported than ever before.
But as we continue our relentless efforts to end live export from Australia, there is a frightened Uruguayan bull in Egypt who needs someone to care about him. There is a curly-horned Romanian sheep in Jordan, and a petrified Thai steer in Vietnam who equally deserve to have someone fighting for them.
We know that if we help one, we help them all.



Ending live export from Romania will not only help animals like him — it is a critical step towards ending live export cruelty globally.
Because every time we expose live export cruelty, we take up the fight for the animals who, for far too long, have been regarded as nothing more than food. Every time we expose live export cruelty, recognition increases that these sensitive animals share our ability to suffer, and therefore deserve better from us — that our circle of compassion should be extended to them as well.
Every time we expose live export cruelty we get ever closer to the day when animals will be valued for who they are, not for the meat or milk they produce.
The strength of any action taken for animals on the back of our latest investigations will depend on the strength of the public response. Feedback from our colleagues in Romania after the program was that ‘our nation is weeping’. For the first time, Romanian politicians are being flooded with demands to end live export.

It is because of your generosity, that we have been able to give voice to animals in need wherever they may be, or wherever they may be from. In this the most difficult and challenging area of our work on behalf of animals, thank you for your faith in us, in our strategy and in our vision for a ki
nder world.
For the animals,
Animals Australia.
P.S. Through our global arm — Animals International — we’ll soon be taking the results of our European investigations to the European Commission. If you’d like to support our work to end the global trade in live animals, we’d deeply appreciate any assistance you can give. Thank you.
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Posted on November 13, 2016 by Serbian Animals Voice (SAV)


We are combining with German anti export campaigners to continue pressing for a one off 8 hour MAXIMUM journey time for all animals in transport.
This will be very much to the benefit of all animals, who currently endure the un- monitored and rather pathetic EU Regulation 1/2005 for animals in transport, which is the EU standard. Under this existing EU Regulation, journey times are:
Un-weaned Calves, Lambs and Foals – 9 hours of transport – followed by a minimum 1 hour break; with then another 9 hours of transport. Total time – 18 hours on the road with a minimum 1 hour rest period, which is taken ON the vehicle.
Pigs – 24 hours transport in a single journey. Animals should officially have access to water throughout then journey, but we very much question if this is often the case.
Cattle, Sheep and Goats – 14 hours of transport – followed by a minimum 1 hour break; with then another 14 hours of transport. Total time – 28 hours on the road with a minimum 1 hour rest period, which is taken ON the vehicle. Animals officially to be fed and given liquids during break if necessary, but we very much question if this is often the case.
Horses – except registered horses – can be transported for a maximum period of 24 hours. Must officially be given liquids, and if necessary fed every 8 hours; but we very much question if this is often the case.
Note in all cases above the ‘rest period’ is officially 1 hour minimum. There is NO maximum; but animals normally take the rest period STILL LOADED ON the vehicle. So you could have an example where cattle can be officially transported for 28 hours on the road. The rest period could be 1 hour but it could also be, for example, say 8 hours. There is no maximum rest period; but the rest period is normally taken with the animals remaining ON the vehicle. Hence for this example you get 28 hours on the road with say an additional 8 hours rest still on the vehicle. This would mean that animals are confined on a truck for a minimum of 36 hours, which we consider is outrageous.
We and others are calling for a ONE OFF MAXIMUM journey time of 8 hours or less.
We are mailing German Chancellor Merkel to ask her to put pressure on the EU to reduce animal journey times to a one off 8 hours maximum. She has influence at EU level; but also has German elections next year – she needs votes ! – we want something in return.


Below you will find a sample letter which you can copy and then send to chancellor Merkel.
E mail your copy of the sample letter to the following address:
You can of course use the sample letter as a guide and amend it to your own requirements.
Here below is the Sample Letter – we provide both English or German versions for you to select; copy and send.
SAMPLE LETTER
German Version

Sehr geehrte Bundeskanzlerin Frau Dr. Merkel,
im Rahmen der 8hours Kampagne im Jahr 2012 haben mehr als 1,2 Mio. Bürger die EU-Kommission aufgefordert die langen, qualvollen Tiertransporte mit lebenden Tiere auf acht Stunden zu begrenzen.
Jedes Jahr leiden Millionen von Tieren im Fernverkehr in ganz Europa.
Sie sind für Tage oder sogar Wochen in überfüllten LKWs oder Schiffen eingepfercht und extremen Temperaturen ausgesetzt.
Zudem erhalten sie nur sehr wenig Nahrung und Wasser – häufig werden auch die gesetzlich erforderlichen Ruhepausen ignoriert.
Es ist unfassbar, dass die EU-Kommission die Anforderung dieser 1,2 Mio. Bürger, Tiertransporte auf max. acht Stunden zu begrenzen, völlig ignoriert hat.
Laut EU-Verordnung Nr.1/2005 gelten für/und während der Tiertransporte folgende Richtlinien:
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Tiere müssen frei von Hunger und Durst
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Tiere müssen frei vom Schmerz, Verletzungen und Krankheiten,
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Tiere müssen frei von Angst und Stress sein
Darüber hinaus ist es verboten, ihnen unnötige Schmerzen oder Leiden zuzufügen.
Dies sind nur einige der Punkte gegen die bei diesen lang andauernden Transporten verstoßen wird.
Leider existieren diese Anforderungen für einen humaneren Tiertransport oft nur auf dem Papier. Wirklich respektiert und eingehalten werden diese Anforderungen gerade bei Tiertransporten über acht Stunden nicht.
(Dies können Sie auch dem beiliegenden Video entnehmen.)
Export of sheep from England to Germany by J. Onderwater (NL).
Alle Gespräche, die die Organisation EyesonAnimals mit den Herren Andriukaitis und Bernard van Goethem geführt hatte, endeten mit der enttäuschenden Antwort: “We cannot do anything“.
Somit sind die verantwortlichen EU-Kommissare lange untätig geblieben.
Laut Lissabon-Vertrag, können eine Million Menschen, die aus mehreren Mitgliedsstaaten kommen, mit Hilfe der Bürgerinitiative die Europäische Kommission auffordern, neue politische Vorschläge unterbreiten.
Diese 1,2 Mio. Menschen konnten die EU-Kommission bisher nicht dazu bringen das Elend der Tiertransporte über acht Stunden zu beenden.
Deshalb fordern wir Sie nun auf, sich dafür einzusetzen, dass diese Transporte zeitlich auf max. acht Stunden begrenzt werden. Bitte machen Sie Ihren Einfluss geltend, damit die Gesetze zu Durchführung der Tiertransporte endlich angepasst werden.
Vielen Dank!
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English version

Dear Chancellor, Dr. Merkel,
In the context of the 8hours campaign in 2012, more than 1.200.000 citizens have asked the EU Commission to limit the long, painful livestock transportation to 8 hours. Every year millions of animals are suffering from long-distance transport across Europe.
They are confined for days or even weeks in overloaded trucks or ships and exposed to extreme temperatures. In addition, they receive only very little food and water – often the legally required rest breaks are also ignored.
It is inconceivable that the EU Commission has completely ignored the requirement of these 1,2 million citizens to limit animal transports to max. eight hours.
According to EU regulation no. 1/2005, the following bids apply during transports:
• Animals must be free from hunger and thirst
• Animals must be free from pain, injuries and diseases,
• Animals must be free from anxiety and stress
These are just some of the points that are being breached in these long-lasting transports.
All this is up to now only on the paper, it was never really respected, as you can see from the enclosed videos.
Export of sheep from England to Germany by J. Onderwater (NL).
All the talks conducted by the organization Eyes on Animals with Mr Andriukaitis and Bernard van Goethem ended with the disappointing answer: “We cannot do anything”.
Thus, the responsible EU commissioners have remained inactive for a long time.
According to the Lisbon Treaty, one million people who have to come from several Member States can use the citizens’ initiative to ask the European Commission to submit new political proposals. These 1,2 million people have not yet been able to stop the misery of the transport of animals over eight hours.
Therefore, we are asking you to make sure that these transports are timed to max. eight hours.
Please state your influence, so that the laws on the implementation of the animal transports are finally adapted.
Thank you
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Here below are 3 video links from our friends and fellow campaigners at ‘Eyes on Animals’ (NL) which show a typical day with animal transport investigations. After watching the videos, which are also included in the sample letters above, we hope you will agree with us campaigners that EU animal transport regulations at the moment are very wrong, and you will add your support to the call for a one off 8 hour maximum journey time by sending the sample letter to Chancellor Merkel at the e mail address we have given earlier.

3 Videos (by Eyes on Animals)
Note these video links are also included in the sample letters given above:
Export of sheep from England to Germany by J. Onderwater (NL).
For the animals – please act; thank you.




Above photos – SAV.

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Posted on November 12, 2016 by Serbian Animals Voice (SAV)

Defra (UK Government) balls up as always when it comes to Bovine TB !! – Must make it look to voter farmers that we are doing something – even if killing badgers is the utterly wrong thing. It needs to be farmers who should improve their actions. See below.
Bovine TB not passed on through direct contact with badgers, research shows
Contact comes through contaminated pasture and dung, with significant implications for farming practices
Badgers and cattle never came into close contact during a new field study examining how tuberculosis (TB) is transmitted between the animals.
Most TB in cattle is contracted from other cattle but some infections come from badgers. The new research indicates that the disease is not passed on by direct contact, but through contaminated pasture and dung, with potentially significant implications for farm practices such as slurry spreading.
It also suggests why TB in cattle is so hard to control even when cattle and badgers are culled, as the bacteria can survive in fields for months. Eradicating TB will require addressing this risk, the new research implies.
TB is a serious problem for farmers, with 36,000 infected cattle slaughtered in Britain in 2015 at a cost to the taxpayer of about £100m. One key element of the government’s control programme, England’s controversial badger cull, is set to expand.
But the UK’s foremost experts say this “flies in the face of scientific evidence” and that the cull is a “monstrous” waste of time and money. The new research has not changed their conclusion.
The new study, carried out on 20 farms in Cornwall, aimed to shed light on how TB is transmitted between badgers and cattle, a route estimated to be directly responsible for about 6% of herd infections. “We know badgers can give TB to cattle but we have never known how,” said Prof Rosie Woodroffe, at the Zoological Society of London, who led the new research. “It is really difficult to track the movement of what is invisible – the pathogen.”
The breakthrough came thanks to new technology: a GPS collar small enough to be worn by badgers. The researchers tracked more than 400 cattle when they were in the territories of 100 badgers, with the total number of tracked days coming to more than 8,000.
“We detected nothing [in way of interactions],” said Woodroffe. Just once in 65,000 observations did a badger get within 10 metres of a cow and they preferred to be 50m away. In contrast, they are thought to need to be within 1.5m of a cow to directly transmit TB. “It looks most likely that the badgers are avoiding the cattle,” she said, although close contact has been seen on rare occasion in the past.
“Badger-to-cattle and cattle-to-badger transmission is therefore most likely happening through the environment,” said Woodroffe. “That raises the possibility that some cattle to cattle transmission is happening through the environment. That is an important issue as TB isn’t seriously managed as though the environment is infectious.”
When TB is detected in a herd, the infected cattle are isolated and sent for slaughter. “But the pasture they are grazing and the slurry or manure they contributed to isn’t treated as if it is contaminated. That can still be squirted all over the environment, as slurry is spread widely,” she said, adding that this might explain how closed herds can be infected from neighbouring farms.
The researchers, whose study was funded by the Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) and is published in Ecology Letters, are now sampling the fields to see exactly where the TB is harboured. This will help farmers understand which biosecurity measures – such as fencing off badger latrines or raising water troughs – actually work.
“There is this mass of measures that farmers are supposed to do, but no-one knows if they really work,” said Woodroffe. “In trying to eradicate a disease, you are trying to nail every transmission route.”
Prof Alastair MacMillan, veterinary adviser for Humane Society International/UK, said: “The suggestion by some that TB is spread by frequent nose-to-nose contact between badgers and cattle has now been completely dismissed.”
“It is much more likely that contamination by cattle of fields and yards by [TB bacteria] is the cause of repeated TB herd breakdowns,” said MacMillan, a former Defra scientist. “It’s clear that the government must divert the substantial resources being used needlessly to cull badgers and instead improve farmer education and biosecurity on farms.”
A Defra spokeswoman said: “Tighter cattle controls and good biosecurity are a key part of our comprehensive strategy to beat bovine TB, and a number of measures are in place to prevent the spread of infection.”
“These include frequent testing and rapid removal of infected cattle, pre- and post-movement testing and wildlife proofing of high risk units,” she said. “To reduce the risk of cattle to cattle transmission from contaminated environment, farmers are required to carry out cleaning and disinfection and to keep cattle out of fields grazed by [infected cattle] for two months after their removal. There are also rules about the use of manure and slurry on infected farms to mitigate the risks.”

Badger cull expansion ‘flies in face of scientific evidence’
Experts call on new prime minister Theresa May to halt ‘failed’ policy, calling it ‘risky, costly, and inhumane’
Woodroffe said the new research has not changed her opinion that the current badger cull should be halted, but she said it could explain why only a slow reduction in TB was seen in earlier, scientific culls: “The feeling has always been with badgers that you kill an infected badger and the infection is gone, but it’s not.”
She warned: “The benefits of badger culling accrue really slowly but the harmful effects [such as spreading TB more widely] happen really fast.”


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