Comment: ‘Recent Comments’ on SAV.

Re ‘Recent Comments’.

Thank you very much to everyone for their comments concerning issues covered by this site.  Whilst the vast majority of your comments are very much appreciated and create a good discussion forum for everyone, we are once again ( as outlined in messages before) witnessing a (very) few comments which are being abusive to certain nations and all of their citizens.

Words such as ‘bastards’ and ‘hang them’ are cropping up regularly from some sectors.

We at SAV know as well as anyone what a traumatic issue campaigning for animal welfare improvements can be; a lot is witnessed on a daily basis during the compilation of this site.

But passing comment and describing the entire people’s of any nation on our planet as ‘bastards’, and declaring that they should ‘all be hung’, is way out of order in our book.

It must be remembered, that for every animal abuser in any nation of the world, there are many people in that same country who are fighting a daily battle to try and defend these same animals from abuse.  EVERY NATION HAS BAD PEOPLE, BUT EVERY NATION ALSO HAS MANY GOOD PEOPLE.  Please DO NOT class the entire population of any country on one issue or just one or two people who are shown on this site.  We work with the good animal defending people of many nations; it is their information which often allows us to expose what is happening around the world.  These people should and must be respected for what they do in defence of animals; putting them and their entire nation down because of any specific issue is not acceptable.

There is enough to do in keeping SAV going without having to edit and remove abusive and critical words and terms from some of the comments which are left.  All comments are read and verified as being acceptable (ie. Non abusive) before they are put onto the ‘Recent Comments’ section.

Any comments that are found to be of this nature in future will be completely trashed before they are even considered for displaying on the site.  Abusing other people’s and nations of the world gets us nowhere; we need to focus our attention and efforts into doing better for animals right across the globe.

We all get angry about what we see and are shown by the global animal welfare movement; that is only natural; as an Englishman, I am proud that the people of my nation are generally, on the whole, very animal welfare supportive.  I also know that there are some English people (a very small minority) who are abusive to animals; thus making a good and a bad mix in ‘my’ country.  I do not therefore brand all English people as either ‘good’ animal people or ‘bad’ animal people – England has a mixture and I accept that – I simply fight to try to be a good one and expose the bad ones and what they do – without ever getting offensive at them or their undertakings.  Angry yes, abusive no.

SAV was founded originally with the intention of being a voice for Serbian animals only.  I respect Serbian people, but know that they come in many different forms, as do we all.  Many Serbian people who I know personally as friends work tirelessly to defend Serbian animals from abuse and suffering which is caused by other Serbian people.  This ‘differnt forms’ can be reflected in the peoples of any nation in any part of the world. 

So please, keep the comments arriving at our door, but please work to ensure that respect is given to all nations and peoples of this world.  Do not judge an entire nation on the doings of one individual and reflect that in any comment.  And most importantly, please remember the good, animal supporting people of each nation as well as the bad, animal abusing people when comments are being made.

Personal insults get us nowhere; they simply lower the good people to the level of the bad.  That achieves nothing.

Thanks

Mark – SAV London.

Saving Foxes, Killing Foxes – just one example.

There is good, and there is bad – EVERYWHERE !

Serbia: Temerin City, Their Animal ‘Shelter’, Death After 3 Days and a (National) Public Attorney Who Says All Is Ok !

In the city of Temerin, which is located near to the city of Novi Sad, a firm named ‘JKP Temerin’ operates as the garbage collection company.  In Temerin is a ‘dog and cat shelter’, given a permit for use by the Direcctor of Veterinary department of Serbia, Mr Micovic.

UPDATE 06/05/10 – New photographs of the Temerin ‘shelter’ can be seen on our other post at:

https://serbiananimalsvoice.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/serbia-exclusive-pictures-of-jkp-termerin-temerin-city-dog-and-cat-shelter/ 

 

Some very Important points to be considered: 

After three days at the ‘shelter’, dogs are taken to Novi Sad city where they are killed by ‘euthanasia’, using Pravilnik 29/94 legislation.

Prior to the new Serbian Veterinary Law of 02/10/2005, there was an old law dating from 1991 for the health protection of animals. In agreement with the old law of 1991, the authorities produced their own other ‘underlaw’ (extra law) regulationnamed ‘Pravilnik 29/94’, which was intorduced to allow the killing of animals after they were held in pounds for 3 to 7 days.

** From 02/10/2005, the new Veterinary Law Article 168 effectively destroyed everything that was written in Pravilnik 29/94, ** because the 2005 law demanded the care of animals.

Pravilnik 29/94 was overwritten by Article 168, the result being that all killing of animals was forbidden apart only from cases for Rabies infected areas, which were covered by application of Articles 64 and 65 of the Veterinary Law.

By continuing to undertake the killing of animals after 3 to 7 days in accordance with regulation Pravilnik 29/94, the authorities were then in a situation where they were working in opposition to the actual existing law

But it is very much the case, even up to the present day, where authorities are still using Pravilnik 29/94 as a reason for the killing of animals.  But in reality, Pravilnik 29/94 became nonexistent on 02/10/2005 with the introduction of the new Veterinary Law (Article 168)

Hence there should be no killing, but animal care instead.

Pravilnik 29/94 is only an ‘underlaw’ (extra law) regulation, has very less power than the actual law, and most importantly, must be in agreement with the existing lawPravilnik 29/94 was valid originally (1991 on) to protect animal health but is now in opposition to the new and current animal law – the new Veterinary Law Article 168 of 02/10/2005.

Serbian campaigners have written to the Constitutional Court saying that it is unlawful for Shinters (Dogcatchers) and also veterinarians to kill stray dogs and cats only after they have been held for three (3) days, as this is now old and outdated legislation.  Killing is forbidden under the new Veterinary law.

Campaigners have now heard from the court in writing, and they say that no analysis of the case is necessary for Pravilnik 29/94 as it has been replaced by the new Veterinary Law Article 168 (02/10/2005). 

This is exactly what the campaigners had said, ie. that the old ‘underlaw’ (extra law) of Pravilnik 29/94 was still being used when it fact it has been overwritten by the new Veterinary Law Article 168 of 02/10/2005.

In addition, Article 46 of the new Veterinary Law (02/10/2005) states that the killing of stray cats and dogs is forbidden and that instead they should be provided with care.

The word from the Serbian Constitutional (law) Court is that from 2005, animals should be provided with care and not be killed.

It would appear that all of the public firms responsible for garbage collection in Serbian cities are still working to, and effectively using Pravilnik 29/94 rather than Article 46 (168) of the new Veterinary Law

In effect, by still working to this now non existent law, these public firms who collect and kill strays are UNDERTAKING ILLEGAL WORK– they should be working in accordace with the new Veterinary Law Article 46 (168) of 02/10/2005 which demands care for the animals.

Unlike the Temerin ‘shelter’ dogs which are illegally killed after only 3 days, Cats which are taken to the ‘shelter’ do not even live three days – they are killed immediately.

A detailed explanation of the legislation is given in our past SAV Link:

https://serbiananimalsvoice.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/serbia-constitutional-court-of-serbia-says-that-the-killing-of-stray-dogs-and-cats-in-serbia-is-forbidden-from-02102005/ 

Serbian campaigners have now taken this case to the court of human rights in Strasbourg – an EU court.  The caseGarbage collectors in Serbian cities are still working using the (now) non existent Pravilnik 29/94 rather than Article 46 (168) of the new and current Veterinary Law of 02/10/2005 which demands care.  In addition, campaigners have requested justification be presented for all the animal killings by the authorities from 02/10/2005 right up to the present day.

Serbian authorities  and officials are responsible for ensuring the correct laws are implemented are:

  • Mrs. Sanja Čelebićanin  -Chief of  Veterinary Inspection
  • Mr. Zoran Mićović – Director of Veterinary Department
  • Mr. Radivoje Kaurin – Chief of  Hunting – Forests Inspection.

So the situation is that many Serbian authorities are not implementing the most recent and current legislation which would give protection to animals in shelters, but are instead using old and outdated, non existing legislation (Pravilnik 29/94) as justification for the continued killing of animals held in shelters.

Another very important factor here is that what has been happening since 02/10/2005 is that existing Serbian law (legislation) has not been implemented throughout the country in relation to animal welfare.

Probably the most important point:

And the proof of the implementation of the ‘Rule of Law’ is a paramount requirement for any nation wishing to become a future member of the EU !

And so what about the ‘Shelter’ for animals at Temerin ?

We declare that the alleged ‘shelter’ at Temerin is NOT shelter but a terrible, unlawful place being funded by Serbian taxpayers to the tune of many millions of Dinars.

Is this facility simply a place that takes in public money allegedly caring for animals, whilst at the same time killing them immediately (cats) or after just three days (dogs) using outdated legislation which was replaced in 2005 ? – we think so.

Animals such as these dogs and cats which are taken from the streets by shinter teams, are not marked or identified in any way.  There is no way that the authorities can provide details of the animals taken by the shinters, be it 10 dogs or 100 dogs captured.  In effect, with no accountability of their work, these public firms can ask for as much public money as they wish – and very often / always they are provided with it !!

Can this be called ‘organised crime’ ?

If a full sterilisation, vaccination, identification and care system was established for all stray animals taken by the shinters, then the facilities such as the Temerin ‘shelter’ would be very much more accountable (ie. Record keeping) of all animals which enter the facility.

As it is, by using old, outdated, self created (mass killing) legislation such as Pravilnik 29/94 rather than working to what should be current animal protection legislation, (ie. Article 46 (168) of the new and current Veterinary Law of 02/10/2005), the authorities and those involved with it appear to in a situation where they can request, and are provided with an endless supply of public money – public money for killing animalsWHICH IS ILLEGAL (since 2005).

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In addition:

The man wearing the black hat in the picture below is Tamas Paska.

Serbian animal campaigners have made several criminal charges against him in the past.

By chance, Paska also lives in Temerin City (detailed above).

The photographs which you can see (above and below) in this post have been presented by Serbian campaigners to both the police and to the Public Attorney of Novi Sad, the city  near to Paska’s city of Temerin.

We have been provided with names of persons engaged in similar organised animal fights on the city of Subotica.  Animal fights which are undertaken at individuals homes.

Photographs :  Legal ? – ‘Yes’, it would appear, according to the Serbian Public Attorney

In response to the evidence, some of which is shown here, as well as names of individuals involved and the cities in which these crimes are undertaken, the Serbian public Attorney has written to welfare activists and stated that ‘there are no elements of any crime or any criminal act’.

Because of this, and the fact that they know they are safe under the statements issued by the Serbian Public Attorney, Paska and the others continue to undertake their ‘non criminal’ acts, as you can see in the photographs.

With Public Attorney officials and police such as this, one has to ask who actually controls and heads all of this animal fighting crime ? – but then it is not a crime; campaigners presenting the evidence have been told all of this !

Implementation of the ‘Rule of Law’ is a paramount requirement for any nation wishing to become a future member of the EU !

…. And that should include Serbia; but does it ?

–          a point that we would argue given this evidence and the declarations made by the Serbian ‘legislators’ – the Public Attorney.

This data , including photographs, information and the responses of the Serbian Public Attorney, as well as the information relating to the situation at the Temerin City ‘shelter’ will now be presented to the officials of the EU.

Lets hope and trust that they take more action to fight crime than the Serbian officials and police!

If Not You

IF NOT YOU, THEN WHO ?

Uk (London): People’s March Against Animal Cruelty – Photographs. ALSO – Ireland: Video Footage From ARAN.

Dear Friends,

The demonstration which happened in London against animal cruelty was a huge success with about more than 1,000 attending the event.  

People walked through Central London. 

It was a long day – some went on to demonstrate outside a laboratory where they test on animals.

The unique thing about the protest was that it was organised by the “people” and not one organisation. It was in the real sense a “people’s voice”.

Here is a link of some of the pictures we got from London :

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rishidev000/LondonProtest24April2010 

HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME THIS CAN BE A GLOBAL EVENT on same day with same issues.

Thanks

Rishi Dev,

Citizens For Animal Rights (CFAR),
New Delhi.

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ARAN Web Site – http://www.aran.ie/

Animal Rights Action Network

Dear ARAN Member & Supporter,

In London last weekend, over 2000 people marched through the busy streets to protest animals used in painful, unscientific and unreliable experiments. The event in London was just one of many held across the globe to mark ‘World Day for Animals in Laboratories’an international day of action to abolish deadly animal experiments in favour of modern, sophisticated medical research.

Please be sure to view the exciting footage of the London rally – click here.

Did you know animal experimentation goes on behind closed doors in Ireland? That’s right, these animals are caged up in steel, cold, chilling rooms waiting to be dissected for experiments that are actually holding back medical progress and delaying the day when we can find vital cures for Cancer, HIV, Stroke and Heart disease. In Ireland those same animals need your active support. Since 2006, ARAN has organized the only national march and rally against cruelty to animals in Ireland and each year it grows stronger and stronger!

Watch footage of ARAN’s main march and rallies in Dublin, Ireland. 2006, 2008, 2009 rally footage and TV3 news footage.

Once you view the above links, won’t you pledge to become more active with ARAN and pledge to attend our rally on October 3rd, 2010 in Dublin? We can never overly stress how important your voice and active participation actually is. Leaving the work up to someone else will never end animal abuse. Sitting back wishing it would all end, will never end animal abuse either. It takes just a couple of moments out of your day from time to time, and can genuinely make a huge difference. We cannot do it without you! Please click the ‘reply’ on this mail – take two minutes to let ARAN know you care and take two minutes to tell us what you can do to help those poor animals. They really have no one else but you, is it to much to ask considering the pain and suffering these poor creatures go through?

Thank you for everything you are doing for animals!

The ARAN Team

Uk: Does Anyone Know Who These Are ?

Re: League’s image of hunters –

Does anyone know who these
 ******* are?

The League Against Cruel Sports would love to have any information.

 

If you do, then please contact the LACS using any of the contact links below.

 
 
 

 

LACS Contact Links:

http://www.league.org.uk/content.aspx?CategoryID=72&ArticleID=271

Telephone: 01483 524 250
Office hours: 9.00am – 5.00pm, Monday-Friday

Email: 
 info@league.org.uk 
(please include full name and contact details)

Press Office:
Telephone: 01483 524 250 (24 hours)
Email:  press@league.org.uk.

Germany: Lufthansa Decide to Stop Flying Animals to Laboratories.

Great news: Less than one day after PETA posted photos of 50 forlorn beagles who were transported by Lufthansa airlines to a Charles River Laboratory (CRL) in Scotland, Lufthansa announced that it would no longer transport dogs and cats to laboratories!

Dogs and cats are used in a variety of laboratory experiments. They’ve been forced to inhale and/or ingest toxic substances, addicted to drugs and alcohol, purposely deafened, blinded, burned, infected with diseases, or used to test various products. Thousands of dogs are poisoned every year to test drugs, vaccines, and medical devices. Beagles are often used because of their size and gentle nature.

The experiments are legal when “properly conducted” in a laboratory setting. Experimenters—and animal suppliers—who violate the minimal standards set forth by the Animal Welfare Act (AWA), often get little more than a slap on the wrist—if that. Since 2007, Marshall Farms, the breeding facility where the dogs in the photos originated, has been cited for more than 20 violations of the AWA. CRL, which is one of the world’s largest breeders and users of animals for experiments, has violated federal laws more than two dozen times since 2007.  (It was recently fined $14,000 by the USDA for negligence in the deaths of 33 monkeys in its Nevada facilities.)

Every year, millions and millions of animals—dogs, cats, primates, rats, mice, rabbits, sheep, and just about every other species you can imagine—are tortured and killed in laboratories across the globe. So Lufthansa’s decision to stop transporting dogs and cats to laboratories, while a small victory, is significant. One more company has washed the blood from its hands by refusing to ship animals to their death. Air Canada stopped shipping dogs to laboratories in 2007, and major airline carriers, Cathay Pacific and Qantas, refuse to transport any animals to laboratories. Just a couple of weeks ago, the state of Utah stopped requiring animal shelters to hand over dogs and cats to universities and other institutions for use in laboratory experiments. Every victory helps, even the small ones.

And Lufthansa’s quick decision to stop shipping dogs and cats to labs shows that public outcry truly makes a difference. Not even one day passed between when PETA posted the photos—and an action alert encouraging people to contact the company to complain—and Lufthansa changed its policy. Few companies want to tangle with PETA, or all the caring people who make the victories possible.

We still have a long way to go (PETA is now trying to persuade Lufthansa to extend its policy to other sentient animals), but, we are making headway—slowly, but surely. Please see StopAnimalTests.com to find out how you can help put a stop to animal tests.

http://www.care2.com/causes/animal-welfare/blog/lufthansa-stops-shipping-dogs-and-cats-to-laboratories/

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SAV Comment –

Brilliant decision Lufthansa – Congratulations !